Hourly Rates v. Flat Fee Rates – What’s better for the Client?

The topic of attorney fees comes up a lot…. ok, well every day. I like to be open and honest with my clients; transparent if you will. Thus I thought a post about legal fees would be welcome by many people.

This is my JOB. This is how I pay my mortgage, feed my family, etc….  Thus I like to be compensated for my work. Yes, I offer free consultations and occasionally I do pro-bono work (no fee). However, by and large I want to be compensated for my time.

I bring 18 years of specialized experience to the table to give my client’s their money’s worth!

The question then becomes what’s best for the client in a fee arrangement?  Hourly?  Flat fee? Contingency?  Some combination of these?

Obviously each case is different, each client is different, and each attorney is different.

We do a lot of our work on flat fees because most of our clients seem to like to know exactly what they are going to spend. We put it in writing!  A lot of clients like to know.

Others are comfortable with hourly rates. Of course with hourly rates the total can exceed a flat fee or it could be less. It just depends on the case. That is usually not known at the outset.

A lot of clients compare the hourly rates of different lawyers without factoring in the experience. If I charge $275 an hour and a brand new attorney charges $175 an hour is it really cheaper to hire the new attorney?  Probably not.  In most instances the new attorney has little clue what they are doing, research every issue, spend 4 times as much time, may miss subtle nuisances that are not clearly written into the law, and similar. Thus in most hourly rate situations the more experienced attorney is CHEAPER; often much cheaper!

Beyond that you need to consider the honesty of an attorney’s billings.  We bill in 1/10th of hour increments (6 minutes).  Some attorneys bill in 15 minute minimum increments; they leave a voice mail for you and charge you for 15 minutes. Yes, really.  No going in what your attorney’s billing practices are.  Clients rarely question our bills because they are accurate and, if anything, we try to under-bill our time. On a rare occasion we make a mistake but usually the client forgot and once we talk the issue is cleared up.

A lot of our work is probate work which is generally covered by the California probate code statutory fee schedule. It’s laid out as a percentage of the estate. You know up front what that schedule is and, again, you will sign a written fee agreement so there are no surprises.

The bottom line is you should talk to your attorney up front and know what the fee options are. Know what choices you have and then make the best choice for YOU.

Good luck.  -John

 

Granite Bay, California Estate Planning Law Firm

Our Roseville offices are Granite Bay close at the corner of Douglas and Eureka (2200 Douglas, Suite 150, Roseville, CA 95661).  We do probate, trust and estate planning. We have three attorneys who are Certified Specialists in Estate Planning, Trust and Probate Law. Our Roseville office is ready to serve you with Specialist John Palley ready for your appointment. Call us, 916-920-5983, and make an appointment with John.

Fair Oaks, California Probate and Estate Lawyers

Our main office is near Arden Fair Mall in the Post West area, right behind the Double Tree Hotel. Our other office is in Roseville at Douglas and Eureka. Both offices are easy to get to from FAIR OAKS, California!  Up Sunrise to Roseville or up Sunrise to Madison and turn west to our main office. Your choice.  We are here to serve you in the area of trusts, estates, and probate.

Lincoln California Estate Planning and Probate Lawyer

We are a Lincoln California Estate Planning and Probate Lawyer with office in Roseville but we WILL MAKE HOUSE CALLS to Lincoln Sun City and all of Lincoln.  We have a team of Certified Specialists in Estate Planning, Trust and Probate Law. Let us help you organize or update your estate… or help you with the administration after death.  We are here to serve you!  Call today and ask for John Palley.

President Obama 2011 Tax Return Information

President Releases 2011 Tax Returns To the Public:

The President and Michelle Obama released their 2011 tax returns to the public. Of course tax planning and estate planning go hand in hand.

President and Mrs. Obama received income from his salary and book royalties. They deducted $49,000 from book royalties for a simplified employee pension contribution, leaving them with an adjusted gross income of $789,674.

The President and Mrs. Obama itemized deductions and their charitable gifts totaled $172,130. This is 21.8% of their adjusted gross income.

Their largest gift was $117,130 from book royalties to the Fisher House Foundation. This charity assists children of soldiers killed or wounded in Iraq or Afghanistan. Others among the 40 listed charities included the Red Cross, the Boys and Girls Club, Habitat for Humanity, Sidwell Friends School and the United Negro College Fund among others.

P.S. Vice President and Mrs. Biden also released their tax return. They received both salary and a pension. Their adjusted gross income was $379,035. They also itemized deductions and reported charitable gifts of $5,540 or 1.5% of their adjusted gross income.

 

Carmichael California Estate Planning Attorney

Our firm serves all of California in the areas of trusts, probate and estate planning. We have been serving the state from our main office, near Arden Fair Mall, in Sacramento since 1979. As I prepare to make a house call today to meet with a house bound client I realize we have an office in Carmichael; your home! We do not typically make house visits but we will for elderly or sick clients. We are here to help you with your needs in the areas of probate, estate planning, wills, trusts, powers of attorney, health care directives, trust resignations, trust appointments, quitclaim deeds and all the other related matters. Contact us for help or just to answer questions! -John

Citrus Heights, California Probate and Estate Planning Attorney

The Law Offices of Meissner, Joseph & Palley, Inc. is a Citrus Heights, California Probate and Estate Planning Attorney with offices in Sacramento and Roseville.  We are a member of the Citrus Heights Chamber of Commerce. We have helping clients from Citrus Heights since 1979.  Both of our offices are convenient to CH with our main office near Arden Fair Mall in Sacramento and our other office at Douglas and Eureka in Roseville.  We have multiple attorneys on staff who are Certified Specialists in Estate Planning, Trust, and Probate law including: John Palley, Amy Ruggles and Jennifer Rouse.  Additionally, Irving Joseph, the dean of our estate planning department is a former CPA and past Certified Specialist in Taxation law. Contact us for your Citrus Heights trust and estates need.

Roseville and Granite Bay Estate Planning Attorney

Our Roseville offices are located at Douglas and Eureka.  From there we are well positioned to handle clients in the Roseville, Granite Bay, Auburn, Lincoln and Orangevale area.  We have been serving the state since 1979 from our main office near Arden Fair Mall in Sacramento. We added the Roseville office in 2007. We are a full service California estate planning and probate firm.  John Palley, our managing partner and head of our probate department, meets with clients at our Roseville office 2-3 days a week. If you need help with living trusts, revocable trusts, irrevocable trusts, probate, trust administration or any other related issues let us know.

Estate Planning for the New Year

I know people have a new year’s resolution of getting their California estate plan done.  Let’s put a big CHECK next to that one!

Contact your California Certified Specialist in Estate Planning, Trust, and Probate law. If your attorney is not a Certified Specialist you might think about finding one.

Get your revocable living trust, pour over wills, durable powers of attorney, living wills, quitclaim deed, certified extract of trust, general transfer and other legal documents done now to protect your family!

-John